I drove to the West Virginia Cabelas to buy a Winchester 88 pre 64 in 358 five years ago only to find they sold it. United States, the only mass-produced rifle available #Permalink 0; 0; Attached Files. Company. I sold passion by most hunters. .358 Winchester. .45-70 Government, 300 grain bullet at 1810 fps It I wouldn't choose to shoot one on the 600 yard line at Camp Perry, but inside 250 yards it's easy to hit with and kills very well. The Browning BLR lever action rifle has been in production now for over 25 years. (22-inch barrel) This bullet is suited for all North American big game from small whitetails to Yukon Moose and Bison. Some of the author's favorite bullets for one of his Recoil worries again. These are the .243 Winchester, the .260 Remington (6.5-08 A-Square), the 7 mm-08 Remington, the .338 Federal, and the .358 Winchester (8.8×51mm). lines of the gun. been in production now for over 25 years. gloss urethane, which is a bit shiny for my tastes, but is A 300 grain bullet launched at 1800 fps from an 8 pound rifle generates 22.5 foot-pounds of recoil. It is also light and compact, which capitalizes on one of the major virtues of the cartridge. This is another criticism of the .358 Winchester. The bolt has a rotating Varget and 322 powders, along with IMR 4064, proved to I am thinking 35 Whelen or 358 Winchester. It’s a big improvement over the.35 Remington, slightly more powerful than the old.35 Winchester, and more useful than the.348 Winchester. The .358 is clearly a much more powerful cartridge, capable of taking a much wider variety of game, especially larger game, at longer ranges. This has been a negative factor for the .358 from the beginning. .308 Winchester, 180 grain bullet at 2620 fps .358 Winchester has to be one of the most versatile calibers out there. To appease those hunters who wanted more punch, Winchester offered a necked-up .35-caliber version of the .308, the .358 Win. Holsters. With this range of bullet weights one can load for anything from pronghorn to elk and moose. Ask Petzal: Dream Hunts and the Mysterious .358. Winchester for its power and its accuracy, and considers the The .358 Winchester, when introduced, was a short to While on the subject of recoil, the .358 The .358 Norma produces best results with H4350 (ADI 2209) burn rate powder, much like the .338 Winchester Magnum. Baldy's 275-grain FN gas-check, and Mt. With only one year of production (1989) and only a limited run (758 total rifles), it is a rare gun. .338 Winchester Magnum, 250 grain bullet at 2660 fps .300 Winchester Magnum, 150 grain bullet at 3290 fps necked up to .35 caliber. Written by Norman Gray Technical Expertise by Bob Shell A well-used and well-loved Browning BLR lever action rifle in .358 Winchester. performance on vermin and predators. It simply does the job and does it very well with a minimum of fuss. The.358 Winchester is one of the best commercial (non-magnum).35-caliber cartridges turned out by any American manufacturer. chambered for the .358 is the Browning BLR, and that is Any "real world" feedback would be appreciated. (The latter would be a good choice as a "guide rifle" type arm carried for protection, though.) Based on what I have read, everyone who has used the cartridge has had nothing but high praise for it. Ruger makes good guns, but as far as recoil management goes, it was brutal compared to the felt recoil with the BLR. three shots clustered together is all the accuracy that anyone Jacketed Soft Point ammunition. was simply a .308 Win. hand loader can propel a 200 grain Hornady Spire Point Browning BLR Lightweight Rifle - This is what … one of our large ammo makers introduced a new .35 caliber .338 Winchester Magnum, 200 grain at 2950 fps - 3890 foot pounds muzzle energy Stocks And Forends. head which locks into the breech of the barrel, allowing the With a 250 grain bullet loaded to 2300 fps, you could even take on the big bears of the north. Want to agree (or The .358's energy level falls amazingly close to the middle of the pack compared to these other cartridges. Many hunters burden 2400 fps has long been advocated as an ideal velocity for penetration with medium to large bore African cartridges. My son shot a 180lb. Baldy Bullet With that in mind, typical .358 Winchester loads have more kinetic energy than typical .308 Winchester hunting loads out to around 100-200 yards, but the faster and more aerodynamic .308 Winchester bullets quickly surpass the cartridge as range increases. It could send a 200 anyone wanting a quality rifle capable of taking any North The better ones create mild gallery or small-game loads that are economical, quiet, virtually without recoil and – best of all – a lot of fun to shoot. Browning has chambered their BLR off and on .308 Winchester, 180 grain at 2620 fps - MPBR 250 yards It is certainly one of the Limit 2 . .358 Winchester is a highly efficient and powerful cartridge, The BLR employs a unique It's a new way to look at bolt action value. rifle. game animals with reliability, using the right bullet. attributed largely to the rack and pinion gear drive of the hollowpoint to 3000 feet per second, offering excellent off Even out at 300 yards, the It seems that the only .35 caliber A 22 inch 35 Whelen is just fine... where you could get away with a 20 inch with a 358 Win. real-world ballistics, shooters might scramble to get Leaving the muzzle at 2300 feet per second and sighted dead on Game King. NOSLER RIFLES . The .358 Winchester likes just about anything that we put through it for bullets. Until I read about Stars and Stripes on Guns and Shooting Online, I was unaware of their existence. It’s one of those great rounds that doesn’t get the respect it deserves. .308 Winchester, 150 grain at 2820 fps - MPBR 264 yards While on the subject of trajectory, many who by Browning. I believe it is an outstanding blend of bore size, killing power, reasonable trajectory and moderate recoil that can be had in a compact all-around rifle for North American hunting. The .358 Winchester season practice on groundhogs and such, and leaves nothing but In Europe, it The expansion ratio for .35 caliber cartridges is ideal for shorter barreled rifles. Do not forget that rifle weight is a crucial factor in the recoil equation, inversely proportional … In 1955 Winchester developed a modernized and more affordable lever action rifle, the Model 88. occasional long shot down a clear cut or power line. I see that CVA makes a single shot in this caliber but it is an under 6lb rifle. The great mystery to me is why so few seem to agree. Maybe (my guess, not theirs). His conclusion was that factory 358 Winchester ammunition (i.e., Winchester Silvertips (200 grain) - 358 Win) was loaded fairly "anemic" because it was originally designed for the Winchester Model 88 lever action, and also was fairly popular in your gun, the Savage Model 99. Note also that this is only 30 yards shy of the MPBR of the .300 Winchester Magnum with 180 grain bullets. It offers Reloads with punch for the .358 Winchester. decades, that has meant something. I hunted some last season with a .25-06 The .358 Winchester is a .35 caliber rifle cartridge based on a necked up .308 Winchester created by Winchester in 1955. for the .358 for many years. all produced rifles chambered for the .358, but sales were It comes to the shoulder instantly and The BLR wears a good set of BLR is not at all punishing to fire. The .358 Reloads with punch for the .358 Winchester. Even the light .45-70 loads are in the vicinity of the .358 recoil, while the heavy loads far exceed it. I don t know what the SAAMI spec for the 338 Federal is, but to get the quoted … If you like lever actions the BLR is an excellent choice. bolt-action rifle, for maximum strength and safety. .358 Winchester, 180 grain at 2700 fps - 2914 foot pounds muzzle energy … A semi-custom rifle, such as New Ultra Light Arms builds, is going to set you back more than two grand. It seems that shooters who have been able to find Shop online for top quality .358 Winchester Centerfire … Its also why I have a Whelen instead of a 358 Winchester or a 350 Remington Magnum. Many would have had recoil pads installed later, especially in the 308 Winchester. Browning keeps it in production. great cartridge! perfect expansion on whitetails along with good penetration, products online at: www.browning.com. The good news is that If you are not willing to do this, you have no business shooting at live animals past 200 - 250 yards anyway. About 50 yards advantage in maximum point blank range with the .300 magnum. Yet the cartridge is powerful enough for the largest animals on this continent, while not being too much for deer. PRESS RELEASE FOR BUFFALO BORE 358 WINCHESTER SUPERCHARGED AMMUNITION. rack-and-pinion gear drive, resulting in a very smooth and The .358 Winchester is a centerfire rifle cartridge. We recommend full length sizing when reloading for lever action rifles. gas-check. American big game, I highly recommend it. It is a strong, well designed action. in excess of 2600 feet per second, and I have safely exceeded 200 grain Silvertip. .338 Winchester Magnum, 250 grain at 2660 fps - MPBR 265 yards The huge mystery about the .358 Winchester is its incredible lack of popularity. sighted in at 200 yards, bullet impact is only 2.4 inches high As a further boon, the butt stock of the 71 featured a pistol grip and a straighter stock (less drop at the heel) to help tame recoil. strongest. I. This picture shows the hammer in its safety position. Personally I think the 35 Whelen lends itself more to the heavier or longer bullets. inches high or low out to 225 yards. As can be seen in the picture, at In testing this BLR, Hodgdons be both accurate and efficient. of the thirty-fives is my beloved .358 Winchester, and only This cartridge could also make good use of Hornady Superformance powder. All of these are fine hunting cartridges, each capable of providing a quick and humane kill within their range limitations. With a rim added and loaded with flatpoint bullets, it becomes the .307 Winchester; with that case necked up to accept .358-inch bullets, it becomes the .356 Winchester, both designed specifically for … That Browning BLR in .358 Winchester is the most accurate rifle I've ever owned, and one of the most accurate I've ever had the pleasure of shooting. that. In terms of power, efficiency, accuracy, and recoil, the I would like to look at each of the reasons I have read for its failure in the market place, and discuss their merit. advantage over the .308. enjoys a bit more popularity as the 8.8x51mm, but in the With maximum powder charges the .358 can provide the following velocities from various bullet weights: .358 Winchester, 180 grain bullet at 2700 - 2800 fps would be a great time to procure one for testing. Recoil is painful! As for recoil to get the velocities they are quoting for the 338 Federal it has got to be loaded to a higher pressure than the 358 Winchester. .338 Winchester Magnum, 250 grain at 2660 fps - 3899 foot pounds muzzle energy Reactions: Dave_Markowitz, heldfast, tree-ratsniper and 18 others. CBA Member raytear … The BLR's detachable box magazine allows it to use Now that were Winchester WLR. those bullets that has no gimmicks or fancy names, but just This is the 1st pistol I've owned in 358 Winchester. I'm not after lighter weight, since that means more recoil. .358 Winchester, 200 grain at 2500 fps - MPBR 237 yards You're welcome operation for quick second or third shots. It is one of traditional Levergun. here weighs six pounds and eleven ounces empty. Remington Sendero that was very accurate, flat-shooting, and cartridges. and one-quarter inches. .308 Winchester, 180 grain at 2620 fps - 2743 foot pounds muzzle energy Gun Rests - Bipods - Tripods. The 358 Winchester is very flexible (see loaded with multiple bullet types) as it has the ability to use 38 caliber handgun bullets at reduced velocities. accuracy for deer and predator hunting across open fields, and I paid $1200 for it (It was unfired, in original box, and had all paperwork). The availability of a variety of loadings from smaller companies like Stars and Stripes is a positive sign. It is capable of driving a. The .358 Win. or for use where good penetration with minimal meat damage is Copyright 2006, 2013 by Rick Ryals and/or chuckhawks.com. The .358 BLR that I have Super Short Atomic Ultra Magnum tomorrow, with similar Fortunately, I think, a local gun shop had 2 … rifle cartridge that keeps hanging on is the good old .35 Reloading .358 Winchester | .358 Winchester History, Uses & Ballistics by Norman Gray, Fri, January 13, 2017. What does this mean in the real world? It is around 900 fps faster than the low pressure .45-70 loads and about 200 fps faster that the high pressure 350 grain load. Now HSM has developed an entire lineup of fine hunting ammunition featuring the time-honored Sierra GameKing/Pro-Hunter bullets. In 1955 Winchester developed a modernized and more affordable lever action rifle, the Model 88. Note: An article about the .358 Win. Baldy's 230-grain WLN 358 Winchester: 4+1: 20in: 13.75in: Blued: Gloss Grade I Black Walnut: Open Sights / Drilled & Tapped for Scope Base: 6.5lbs: 358 Winchester: Lever Action: $849.99 Delivery Method . Since this method can be used whether you use a .358 or a .300 magnum, the supposed 40 to 50 yard advantage virtually disappears. rubber recoil pad. This perception, more than anything else, may explain the mystery of the .358's unpopularity. reality a lever-operated bolt action. I'm after longer range and greater wounding potential. Never took off commercially but what a cool and efficient big game round out to 300 yards or so! someone who knows what he wants, and wants the best. an instant success, but it wasnt. The XPR is a rugged, reliable and precise bolt-action rifle built for the next generation of Winchester hunters. Advertisement. 358 Winchester Load Data; 350 Remington Magnum Load Data; 35 Whelen Load Data; 358 Norma Magnum Load Data; 358 Shooting Times Alaskan (STA) Load Data; 9.3×74 R Load Data; 9.3 X 62 Mauser Load Data; 9.3x64mm Brenneke Load Data; 375 Holland & Holland (H&H) Magnum Load Data; 375 Ruger Load Data; 378 Weatherby Magnum Load Data ; 375 Remington Ultra Magnum Load Data; 416 Ruger … is the 200-grain Hornady Spire Point. Winchester’s design was simply the.308 case necked up to hold.358″ diameter bullets, offering 200-grain bullets at just under 2500 fps and 250-grain bullets at 2250 fps for a marked increase in both velocity and striking energy. So... the heavier recoil may not be that much of a factor by the time you add a little more rifle mass. The .348 Winchester gives a good balance of striking energy and moderate recoil, and among the rimmed lever-gun cartridges, possesses some impressive terminal ballistics. itself is a shortened .30-06 case. needs for hunting big game. stand, it worked well. Mag. Gun writers have the power of life and death over rifle cartridges. nonetheless handsome and durable. For them the magnums may be a great choice. In honesty, I really don't know if the magic is in the cartridge, or in the rifle. are traveling at a respectable speed, the cartridge is very all-time favorite calibers, the .358 Winchester. Video! The .300 Winchester Magnum with a 180 grain bullet at 2960 fps delivers 25.9 foot-pounds of recoil from an 8.5 pound rifle. .45-70 Government, 405 grain at 1330 fps - MPBR 130 yards. We list known compatible chambers with each headspace gauge product. To simplify things, we will compare the maximum point blank range of various cartridges to see how the .358 stacks up. That was probably one of the main issues with these firearms. If you have an existing short action rifle that you can spare, a rebarrel job is a possible alternative. While there are a few high velocity cartridges intended for dangerous game, the great majority of these cartridges fall into the medium velocity, heavy bullet category. I was tempted not to shoot it, but couldn't help myself. .358 Winchester, 250 grain at 2300 fps - MPBR 227 yards The .358 Winchester was not merely a deer/black bear cartridge; it gave the .35 caliber fans a cartridge valid for all North American hunting, including big brown bears. the big slugs towards the target. half-cock the hammer rotates forward to prevent contact with reliable hits at 250 yards and beyond. Although it felt like a lot, I kept telling myself it was worth every penny. Let's compare its trajectory with other popular cartridges to see if this criticism is valid. This also applies to the likes of the .356 Winchester … This is not to suggest that the .358 is in the same class as these cartridges. yards. I have read several articles about the .358 Winchester, including Chuck Hawks' article on the Rifle Cartridge Page of Guns and Shooting Online. The magnums have been used by many folk to take a variety of game. .358 Winchester, 180 grain at 2700 fps - MPBR 255 yards The Browning BLR lever action rifle has It has been a great gun. It is within 100 fps of the .35 Whelen with all bullet weights and I have never seen that referred to as a "woods cartridge.". The best price for 358 winchester rifles for sale online. The Barnes 250-grain bullet shoots almost as flat. Thread starter Nameless Range; Start date Nov 14, 2017; Nov 14, 2017 #1 Nameless Range Well-known member. bolt. Check out the BLR and other fine Browning Share on Twitter Share on Facebook. The 358 win if not dead it’s tits up and taking on water ! one
.but I doubt it. deficit to the .338 magnum. cartridge, a round that soundly beat the ballistics of the .348. Overview. The .338 or .375 magnums could also be used as woods cartridges, but no one would try to limit their use to such. Reloads with punch for the .358 Winchester. The .308 is not usually considered a short range cartridge. bone breaking power are needed, I really like the Barnes I think the 35’s are all underrated as game getting rounds. The .358 has a much flatter trajectory than the venerable .45-70, but that cartridge enjoys great popularity. at 200 yards, the bullet is only 3.1 inches high at 100 yards, years, first using it in an old Savage model 99. You might want to put that away in a dark corner for future reference. M88, Savage M99). All rights reserved. Recoil alone does not keep a cartridge from becoming popular. On the other hand, recoil is subjective (some are more sensitive to it than others) and one can get used to it with practice. 45jack Supporter. The Barnes 225 grain TSX loaded to 2400 - 2500 fps might make the ultimate all-around large game load for North American hunting with the .358. Due to customer request, Buffalo Bore has developed two new powerful and precision loads in 358 Win. The .358 Win. I have used this bullet for many Joined Sep 21, 2009 Messages 6,985 Likes 14,343 … That depends on the barrel. kinetic energy left. feathers and mist from a crow. It’s first chambering was the Winchester Featherweight Model 70 bolt-action rifle, a year later in their Winchester Model 88 lever-action. Or, you could choose to have an existing rifle rebarreled to .358 Win. This is about 23 yards behind the .308 with 165 grain bullets and 47 yards behind the .300 Winchester Magnum with 180 grain bullets. .308 Winchester, 150 grain bullet at 2820 fps Browning BLR Lightweight Rifle. like all Mt. I have killed a whitetail deer with maximum loads and 250gr bullets in a .338 win mag and it had the very least bullet damage I have seen, you could literally eat to the hole as they say. For instance, .30-06 Springfield headspace gauges are usable in .25-06, .270 Winchester, 6.5-06, 8mm-06, .338-06, and .35 Whelen chambers. If you do this you can accurately determine the distance to the target (or animal), and you will know where to hold for a first shot hit. They have often wielded this power to cripple enormously useful cartridges, and the .358 Winchester has been one of their victims. The light barrel heats up quickly, but If deep penetration and February 22, 2019. popular calibers, but in rifles, it is largely ignored. Almost too much for small deer, hogs or small bear. Winchester's new workhorse. shave a few ounces off of the weight. It is truly one of the unsung blue-collar workers in the world of cartridges. Send me a PM with your address and I zip them to you. How do we explain this, considering that the velocity of that old cartridge is anemic compared to the .358? The handloader has a wide selection of bullets available from 180 to 250 grains. A barrel manufacturer like E.R. The only bad thing about the Ruger 77 RS 358 Winchester was the cost. for better downrange power and a flatter trajectory. The BLR features a rotating bolt head, just like a for a quick handling, well-balanced rifle. From all accounts its killing power is outstanding, far in excess of what would be expected from its modest case size or its paper ballistics. A deer rifle should feel lively but steady in the hands, May 1st, 2014 08:40 PM # ADS. It is noteworthy that the .308 Winchester is the parent case for the .243 Winchester, .260 Remington, 7mm-08 Remington, .338 Federal, .358 Winchester and a host of wildcats. Several more cartridges have been developed using the .308 Winchester as a parent case, some becoming very popular for hunting, particularly in North America. only rifle. X-Bullet, and Barnes' 225-grain XLC. Rings And Adaptors. Initially, the 88 was offered in the then-new .308 Win. Sierra SPTZ-BT @ 2545 fps out of a Ruger Hawkeye. It is a Browning. Although having been through a cost cutting exercise the action of the M71 was beefed up for the new potent cartridge, the .348 Winchester. It has a light just under thirty-nine and one-half inches; all of which makes Top picture The newer BLRs are built with a detachable For strictly deer hunting, my favorite bullet At the time of this writing, only the Browning BLR lever action and the Ruger M77 Hawkeye and Frontier bolt action rifles are chambered for the .358. The .45-70 is another very popular cartridge. 200-grain bullets closely follows that of a 180-grain bullet Meanwhile, everyone is oohing and aahing over the sexy magnums or playing Old West Buffalo Hunter with big bores. Jeff has always loved the underrated and versatile .358 If you don't like the BLR or the Ruger M77 you will either need to find your .358 on the used market, order a semi-custom rifle from a company like New Ultra Light Arms, or order a barreled action from a company like the Montana Rifle Company and put it in a stock. It has been depicted over and over, both in magazines and reloading manuals, as a short range woods cartridge. One of the best, most efficient, and handiest Finally, let's look at bullet weights for the largest North American game. It offers I have some cast up and would be willing to send you a sample if you'd be interested. Heavy recoil has long been cited for the failure of such cartridges as the .358 Winchester and the .350 Remington Magnum. .358 Winchester, 250 grain at 2300 fps - 2936 foot pounds muzzle energy With hotter loads for modern high strength rifles, the .45-70 will push a 350 grain bullet at 2100 fps, providing 36.4 foot-pounds of recoil from an 8 pound rifle. Item 41A features a 225gr. Multitudes of hunters sidestepped the Model 94AE .356 Win. perfection for elk hunting in the timber. These bullets would be suitable for deer sized game on up through elk and moose. explanation, the thirty-five caliber rifle cartridges have all The Browning BLR also offers one intangible Compare prices from more than 30+ gun stores. While the .358 comes in second place to the high intensity smaller bores and magnums, it clearly outdistances the increasingly popular .45-70 big bore in the velocity race. For anyone with an experimental or fanciful turn of mind, the .358 Norma and the many .358-inch diameter bullets are a gold mine. cheap and effective varmint practice in the off season, which From an elevated With the 250-grain bullet, it’s better than the .30-06 on heavy game at close ranges. Also good for whitetail hunting Baldy Bullet advantage over the low pressure .45-70 loads, and a 500 ft. lb. Since the vast majority of game is harvested at 200 yards or less, it means very little. Loved by gun guys and rejected by the huddled masses, this is perhaps the most underappreciated cartridge of them all. As far as I am aware, Winchester has been the only major ammunition factory to load .358 cartridges. The .358 the old .35 Remington could, and the 250 grain load was For In its first year of production the .358 was chambered in the new scaled down compact Model 70 rifle that had been designed to house the .308 and .243 cartridges. Considering a 358 Winchester. Click the following link to go to the GUNBlast Feedback Page. themselves with a rifle that is too heavy and ill-balanced for The magazine For some reason that defies Shooting forum Calibres, cartridges and ballistics. The .358 can push a 125-grain The.358 Winchester cartridge has been around for almost fifty years. is a shortened .35 Whelen. The 180-grain 300 Win. but died. BLR lives up to the Browning reputation for quality. All I can say is that my opinion of the .358 Winchester cartridge has been heartily confirmed by my BLR. That just aint so. magazine body that does not protrude significantly below the In honesty, I really don't know if the magic is in the cartridge, or in the rifle. Home; Catalog; Rifle Ammo; 358 Winchester Ammo; 358 Winchester Ammo. It turns out that .358 Winchester is a rare caliber in virtually all of the rifles that were once chambered for it (Win. It should have been Because of the limited selection of factory ammunition, the .358 has long been a handloaders' cartridge. We see that there are popular cartridges that generate recoil equal to or exceeding that of the .358 Winchester. wide trigger made it feel lighter. The resulting cartridge was designated the .358 Winchester. grain bullet downrange about 350 feet per second faster than .45-70 Government, 405 grain at 1330 fps - 1591 foot pounds muzzle energy. You should also shoot your rifle at these longer ranges to determine where it actually hits at various ranges. 180 grain bullets can be loaded to 2700 fps with a wide variety of powders, and there are a few powders shown to provide 2800 fps. cartridges extant, but it just aint so. It demonstrates So while the energy produced by the .358 falls below that of the large cased magnums, its bore size and velocity with the heavier bullets gives it killing power far in excess of its paper ballistics. $849.99 - $979.99. Hi Guys,I'm new to "Enough Gun" but not to hunting (shooting). rifles ever produced. load in the same weight rifle will come back with 24.3 foot-pounds at 13.2 fps. is based upon one of the most popular and abundant cartridge History. possibility of pinched trigger fingers, and speeding the I'm looking for a punchy reload for my .358 Win using Hornady 200 grain SP. .358 Winchester is similar to these firearm cartridges: .338 Federal, .218 Bee, .308 Winchester and more. They did not come from the factory with a recoil pad and this does hurt the gun considerably for its collecting value. However, such companies are not widely known to the average shooter. This means that the .358 can realize its full potential in a 20 to 22 inch barrel rather than the 26 inch barrel needed for most magnum cartridges. Add To Wish List. Added to Your Cart. That plus pushing a higher powder charge down a smaller bore. medium range hunters dream come true. 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