During a visit to the Olin powder factory years ago, I learned that W296 and H110 were the same powder. Experimenters such as Elmer Keith proved that a heavily loaded .44 Special was very effective on big game. The.44 Special is an often-overlooked cartridge that offers some serious benefits. The Winchester .350 Legend is a no-nonsense whitetail thumper tailored for rifle hunters in... David Fortier talks with Jeff Hoffman of Black Hills Ammunition about the evolution of the .308 Win. Accurate now has reintroduced XMP-5744, a slow burning, bulky powder and is good in magnum pistol loads. The current Winchester Model 1892 and the Ruger Model 77/44 are capable of shooting inside 2 inches at 50 yards. i think my … And if you want a plinkin load with lead for the mag cases, use 8 grains of unique under a 240 grain hardcast boolit. The Special case was lengthened from .97 inch to 1.16 inches and originally loaded with black powder, receiving 3 grains more than the Russian cartridge for a boost in velocity. Turned off: Joined: Sat May 21, 2016 11:28 am Posts: 1076 Location: Shiner, TX I like 10 grains of Unique with Elmer's bullet! First, the .327 can be very accurate; however, many loads – including some factory loads – have very high extreme velocity spreads and only offer mediocre accuracy. if the forcing cone is a little deep or raw in you Abilene, the longer wheelbase may shoot tighter. Big bore semiauto or a lever gun? State Agency: This guide is not intended to be a reloading textbook, but rather a list of recommended loads for Accurate powders. Enter To Win A Primary Arms Prize Package! Well, at least there weren’t any in bygone days! I have used 10.0 gr. Burned Out; Classifieds; 2,377 posts; Gender: Male; Location: Tampa, Florida; Share; Posted February 2, 2007. New Jersey Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: High velocity; Magnum handgun loads; Shooter's choice for 410; Principal Purpose: Magnum handgun loads Secondary Uses: .22 Hornet and 218 Bee Remarks: Legendary for its performance in .44 Mag and other magnum pistol loads. In addition, H110 is “the” choice for 410-bore shotgun, especially among top competitive skeet and sporting clays shooters. Velocity comparisons were my objective during this project, so I did not shoot for accuracy. It’s an amazing feeling that you can’t quantify with words- you have to experience it in person to appreciate the “experience”. Over the past 50+ years a lot of .44 long guns have come and gone, however this Marlin 336 remains a favorite. Velocities are modest, typically ranging from 650 fps to around 1,000 fps. In 1966 my friend the late John Lachuk wrote: “If I had my druthers, I’d take this handy lever-gun and my 44 Maggie and head for the backcountry!” He was talking about the newly introduced Marlin 336T chambered in .44 Magnum. Its charge weight to velocity ratio varies as bullet weight and barrel length vary. hard cast bullet over 22.5 grains of #2400 for around 1,400 fps or more. When I started loading for the .44 Magnum, carbide sizing dies had not yet arrived. And, after all this time, with everything I’ve read and everything I’ve written, there is one line that stands out and I consider the best words ever written — at least for those things I’m primarily interested in. Never saw a real need for anything else. This is a common combination for hunters in heavy brush, as well as in certain cowboy action shooting competitions. In the foolish time of life known as teenage I let both guns slip through my hands. for the 429-421 and the RCBS clone, 8.5 - 10 grains has been the range I have used, but the 8.5 grain load was more accurate for me and was the load I used the most. 800x. Delaware Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Thanks in advance mcb. Mikey. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by TenDriver, Feb 16, 2014. The containers of Accurate 4100 and Ramshot Enforcer have different exterior appearances, but according to my contact at Western Powders, they contain the same powder. Alabama Department of Conservation & Natural Resources. Like W296/H110, it is a double-base spherical propellant made at St. Marks. An excellent choice I have found is the Hornady 265 FP which, although originally designed for the .444 Marlin, works just fine in the .44 Magnum be it sixgun or levergun. A military-surplus powder produced by Hercules during the war for the .30 Carbine called H240 was a bit quicker burning than 2400, but it delivered higher velocities and burned cleaner. My Taurus Raging Bull 44 Mag with 8-3/8" barrel likes the 300gr Hornady XTP the best (2.5" groups at 100 yards) and the 180gr Hornady XTPs are extremely accurate in both of my 10mm Auto handguns (Kimber Eclipse Custom II and Glock 20 Gen 4) Seems my 44 shoots just about the same with pretty much any powder I put in it. While the .32 H&R Magnum doesn't get the attention it deserves, plenty of handloading... Handloading the .38 WCF is a bit more involved than handloading for other cartridges, but... Give a Gift   South Dakota Game, Fish & Parks, State Agency: Right now I am thinking either 225 or 240 grain HP bullet and maybe Hodgdon H110 as a starting point but if you guys know a better combination I am all ears. The limiting factor of the .44 Magnum cartridge is not terminal ballistics. Get a copy of their booklet and check this powder out. 44 Magnum: 1200 ft-lb: 500 S&W Magnum (light) 550 ft-lb: 500 S&W Magnum (full-power) 2000 – 2600 ft-lb: Needless to say, the 500 S&W Magnum packs an amazing punch- pushing 500 grains of lead down range at supersonic speed. All excellent hunting loads. Now that both powders are under the Hodgdon umbrella, Reiber willingly confirms that W296 and H110 are indeed the same powder. comprises a half-dozen mostly flatpoint or semiwadcutter cast bullets weighing from 165 to 240 grains. Georgia Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Rhode Island Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: If the guy who wrote that nasty letter about three decades ago is still capable of reading small print and has a copy of Hodgdon's latest Annual Manual, he may see that listed charge weights, velocities and pressures for the two powders are identical. The most accurate loads from my 44 Magnum Mountain Gun are the 240s, whether jacketed HPs, softnoses or hardcast over charges of 296/H110 or 2400. The old ones still keep on working. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Twist Rate: 1:20” Barrel: Wiseman 44 Remington Magnum 44 Remington Magnum Maximum Loads Should Be Used With Caution - Always Start With Minimum Loads. Don't whimp out on us! I'm using X-treme plated 240 gr RN bullets 5.8 gr 231 ~1.610" COL WLP Primers Light crimp, just enough to keep the bullets from being pushed into the case by hand. TenDriver Member. Match bullet. With the Lyman/Thompson #431244GC over 20.0 grains of #2400 results in 1,550 fps and a 1-1/2" group with iron sights at 50 yards while the NEI 429.295GC over 21.5 grains of WW296 shoots into the same group size with a muzzle velocity of 1,550 fps. Illinois Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: I do load up some 300gr XTP Mag loads for hogs also. Be aware that firing full-power.44 Magnum loads will with it produces prodigious amounts of recoil. Most jacketed bullets will not be a problem unless they are long, heavyweight designs. Of the over 100,000.44 Mag loads I have fired, over 80% of them have been 25 H110/296 and a 250 Keith, the Hensley & Gibbs #503. We return to Smith & Wesson in order to review another of … Harmon, My brother hunts hogs and owns a Ruger .44 Mag carbine. Henry USA, of course, also makes a few. That explained differing maximum charge weights published for the two powders in various reloading manuals for .44 Magnum loads. All the top-end reloading data with pressure-tested data shows.44 Magnum loads maxing out at 35,000 psi (or 38,000 CUP). However, it’s not needed on a daily basis. Never saw a real need for anything else. He went on to say: “One-caliber rifle-pistol duos are a Western tradition, handed down from the days when ammo counters were few and far between.” Little did I know I would not only meet John in the future but we’d also become good friends. Bruce in WV Post subject: Re: Favorite Accuracy Loads for .44 Mag. As the chart shows, there were no appreciable differences in velocity when the standard CCI 300 and the magnum CCI 350 primers were used. In 1969, the Marlin 1894 was resurrected and offered in .44 Magnum. Legendary for its performance in .44 magnum and other magnum pistol loads. Frank and Tony from Gallery of Guns spice up the Glock test using their non-dominant hands. Posted February 2, 2007. Ok, I used to load with accurate #7 using hornady xtp 240 gr jhp. Silhouette shooters claim it is the most accurate 44 powder they have ever used. Kentucky Department of Fish & Wildlife Resources, State Agency: The SAAMI specs call for … When first learning of the new powder, I assumed it would require the use of a magnum primer, such as CCI 350 or Federal 155. Top . In the 1960s, the Marlin 336, a long-time deer hunter’s favorite offered in .30-30 and .35 Remington, was brought forth as the sixgunner’s companion in .44 Magnum. To view this Reloading Guide in a PDF format, click the red button below. This ball powder was designed for the.30 Carbine and magnum handgunners have adopted it with good reason. I find TightGroup equal to Bullseye, These loads are TightGroup in Special brass in a 5 1/2 inch 629 with 429421. His is a Lyman 429421 Keith bullet over a load of 2400: he had to do some 'sperimentin' as he found best accuracy within a window of only about 1/2 gr in his gun, somewhere about 1/2 to 1 gr below the Alliant book max, if memory serves. Quite a collection: John has been loading the .44 Magnum using #2400 for over 60 years. Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection, State Agency: All handguns are different, but normally bullets have a bigger impact on accuracy and performance than powders. Keith pestered the ammo companies to bring out heavier .44 Special loads, but there was a fear that such powerful loads would blow up an older, weaker revolver. I need suggested loads for accuracy with 44 magnum brass. When the supply of surplus powder ran out during the 1960s, Hodgdon turned to Nobel of Scotland for a fresh supply made to the same specifications. After a while, however, even the most recoil-tough shooter looks forward to toning things down a bit. South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Nevada Department of Wildlife, State Agency: Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commission, State Agency: Unique loads for 44 magnum looking for a window using Unique and a 265 gr Keith style boolit thanks ... but MAG loads are full house all the way, baby!!!!! We ping steel with a .300 WinMag at over a mile. I could also use loads for the same revolver, but using .44 Special brass. It also had better sights and proved to be a bit more accurate as well. In fact this bullet is so accurate it was my choice for long-range silhouetting back in the 1980s and ’90s. I get pinpoint accuracy and the recoil doesn't make me flinch after 50 rounds. The old ones still keep on working. As soon as Ruger wakes up and offers a 5.5" stainless .44 magnum Super Blackhawk Bisley (essentially the exact same gun as I already have in .45 … Most hand-loaders who use W296/H110 know that a magnum primer is recommended for uniform ignition. Unfortunately, Hodgdon's supply was soon exhausted. Moreover, handloaders are cautioned against using less powder than the starting charge shown in reloading manuals. I reviewed the Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter here last year. According to my Redding 10X powder measure, gravimetric density of the two powders is the same. With its 20" barrel, full magazine tube and straight-gripped stock, it was the near-perfect woods carbine. Over the years I have played with Unique, 2400, Lil' Gun and H110/W296. Then there is the matter of primer suitability. Josh Wayner for TTAG. Save … For 240- and 300-grain jacketed bullets, the latest Hodgdon Annual Manual shows only 1.0-grain difference between starting and maximum charges of W296/H110. Louisiana Department of Wildlife & Fisheries, State Agency: With some of these powders, there is not a lot of distance between start charge and max charge. 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